I'm actually starting to like/respect Ryan Adams

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Post by Jake »

Sugarcubes Forever wrote:2. Release only 25% of what you record in the studio. Learn something from those who came before you.
The Beatles released two albums per year, as did most bands in the sixties.

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Jake wrote:The Beatles released two albums per year, as did most bands in the sixties.
... of about 35 minutes each, though.

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Lep wrote:... of about 35 minutes each, though.
...half made up of covers, in the early years.

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Nevertheless, in the amount of time (~24 months) that passes between albums for most major-label artists, the Beatles managed to release:

A Hard Day's Night (July 10, 1964) - 13 songs, no covers
Beatles for Sale (December 4, 1964) - 14 songs, 6 covers
Help! (August 6, 1965) - 14 songs, 2 covers
Rubber Soul (December 3, 1965) - 14 songs, no covers
Revolver (August 5, 1966) - 14 songs, no covers

That's 61 original songs, plus 8 covers. And that's not including the various singles released during this time:

"Long Tall Sally" (Johnson/Penniman/Blackwell) (June 19, 1964 Long Tall Sally EP)
"I Call Your Name" (June 19, 1964 Long Tall Sally EP)
"Slow Down" (Williams) (June 19, 1964 Long Tall Sally EP)
"Matchbox" (Perkins) (June 19, 1964 Long Tall Sally EP)
"I Feel Fine" (November 27, 1964 A-side)
"She's A Woman" (November 27, 1964 B-side)
"Bad Boy" (Williams) (June 14, 1965 US album Beatles VI / December 9, 1966 UK album A Collection of Beatles' Oldies)
"Yes It Is" (April 9, 1965 B-side)
"I'm Down" (July 23, 1965 B-side)
"Day Tripper" (December 3, 1965 - Double A-side with "We Can Work It Out")
"We Can Work It Out" (December 3, 1965 - double A-side with "Day Tripper")
"Paperback Writer" (June 10, 1966 - A-side)
"Rain" (June 10, 1966 - B-side)

That's another album's worth of material (9 originals plus 4 covers). It's insanely prolific.

But it wasn't just the Beatles by any means!

The Byrds:
Mr. Tambourine Man (21st June 1965)
Turn! Turn! Turn! (6th December 1965)
Fifth Dimension (18th July 1966)
Younger Than Yesterday (20th February 1967)

The Stones:
The Rolling Stones (17 April 1964)
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (15 January 1965)
Out of Our Heads (24 September 1965)
Aftermath (15 April 1966)

Beach Boys:
Surfer Girl (1963)
Little Deuce Coupe (1963)
Shut Down Volume 2 (1964)
All Summer Long (1964)
The Beach Boys' Christmas Album (1964)
The Beach Boys Today! (1965)
Summer Days (and Summer Nights!) (1965)
Beach Boys' Party! (1965)

Kinks:
The Kinks (Released in the US as You Really Got Me) (1964)
Kinda Kinks (1965)
The Kink Kontroversy (1965)
Kinks Kinkdom (1965)
Face to Face (1966)
Something Else By The Kinks (1967)

Hendrix:
Are You Experienced (August, 1967)
Axis: Bold as Love (December, 1967)
Electric Ladyland (September, 1968)

Doors:
The Doors (January 1967)
Strange Days (October 1967)
Waiting for the Sun (July 1968)
The Soft Parade (July 1969)

CCR:
Creedence Clearwater Revival (July 1968)
Bayou Country (January 1969)
Green River (August 1969)*
Willy and the Poor Boys (November 1969)*
Cosmo's Factory (July 1970)*

Even the Velvets were cranking out an album a year:
The Velvet Underground and Nico (recorded 1966, released 1967)
White Light/White Heat (recorded 1967, released 1968)
The Velvet Underground (recorded 1968, released 1969)


Data via: http://en.wikipedia.org/

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Post by steve-o »

Yeah, but they're the Beatles. Part of what made them such an important band was that fact that they were prolific. But the key is that it was 99 percent quality material. If you can release three albums a year that are all really good, then more power to you. If you're releasing three albums a year and 50 percent or higher is filler, then you need to cut it back.

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Sugarcubes Forever wrote: 2. Release only 25% of what you record in the studio. Learn something from those who came before you. With a floodgate of balogny coming from your recording booth, there's no time for the average music fan to digest a tune. People grow attached to a song after it has a chance to bounce around their lives a bit and find its own context. Less in that regard is more.
yes! there are a lot of cd's/songs i never liked intially, but soon grew to love after some time had passed. sometimes a first impression you get from a cd isn't a clear way of telling whether you like the cd or not. it may take more before you are certain. i remember when i first started hearing about radiohead i began to really hate them. but as i dug deeper into their music they finally clicked with me.

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Post by D. Phillips »

steve-o wrote:Yeah, but they're the Beatles. Part of what made them such an important band was that fact that they were prolific.
They also had three songwriters.

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Post by Mixmaster Shecky »

Bob Pollard gets a lot of that, too. The way he's churned out songs makes Adams look like some dinosaur AOR band from 1975, fiddling around in the studio for years between releases.

Let's face it - both Adams and Pollard end up with a lot of filler. But of course, it's usually worth it.

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Post by Sugarcubes Forever »

I love The Beatles. My parents had all their vinyl back in the day. Used to listen to it all the time. We all know all their songs, and we pour over it even today. The Beatles were a great band. Maybe the greatest band EVER.

Ryan Adams is not the Beatles. Never was and never will be. On top of that he has a habit of making himself sound like a fucking junkie freak.

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Post by steve-o »

Sugarcubes Forever wrote:On top of that he has a habit of making himself sound like a fucking junkie freak.
I think you're confusing him with that other guy people around are always obsessing about (Ah, I kid, I kid!)

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