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True Patriot Love...

Postby dieblucasdie » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:35 am

So, this is the thread where I shamelessly mine the GLOno braintrust for their thoughts on the Canadian music scene, specifically, but not limited to, Broken Social Scene and the attendant bands. Why, you might ask? You will soon see. I know there are a lot of our neighbors to the north here, so I thought I'd ask for your perspective on all those crazy Canadian music collectives, what their stateside indie success means, etc. Go!

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Postby nobodygirl » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:04 pm

Okay,

1. Someone referred to Canada as "The New New York" and I wanted to hit them very badly.

2. Trends are weird. I don't think that their success means all that terribly much except if it does it owes a whole bunch to the Arcade Fire. I think that people are attempting to find a way to explain the fact that they just kind of exploded and they're all "OH, BAND X IS FROM CANADA TOO WE HEART CANADA!!!!!!1111!!

2A. Not to diminish the awesomeness of other bands from Canada, understand.

3. Last night I heard Sloan for the first time. Are they Canadian?

4. "Canadian" is much more fun to spell if you are French.

that is all,

nbg.

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Postby n8 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:48 pm

I think it's awesome - the Unicorns, Hot Hot Heat, the Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene, etc. - awesome bands all. There is much less of an industry presence in Canada than there is in the U.S., which allows more artistically-, rather than commercially-minded groups to coalesce and really find their sound before anyone else finds them. This longer period of incubation probably has a lot to do with it. Here in the States labels usually pluck up talented bands while they're still young, and often their development gets stunted. It's like lifting a lot of weights when you're a kid - you end up short. Hopefully these Canadian bands' staunch DIY ethics will spark a similar revival in the U.S., because I think we're in dire need of one.

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Postby Tom4 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:01 pm

Yeah...I think it's safe to say that Canadian bands far outweight Americans (with the Brits coming in at a classy 3rd) on my iPod. Who can argue with such success rates?

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Postby LionIndex » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:14 pm

I've noticed the recent kickassness of Canadian bands as well (and would like to add GYBE! and their offshoots to the pot), but let's not get silly and forget Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, the Tragically Hip, or the Matthew Good Band. As far as American bands having a similar hit ratio, Austin TX seems to be doing pretty well with the Trail of Dead, Spoon, Explosions in the Sky, and American Analog Set. Just to name a few.

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Postby miss carol » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:16 pm

Check out: Have Not Been the Same

Also: Exclaim Magazine.

The Canuck scene goes through waves. Different cities become trendy. At present it's Montreal. For a while it was Vancouver. Halifax had it's day in the critical sun. Even Winnipeg made a few headlines. I think Regina is next.

I don't think it's any different really than the US, frankly. It's all hype. A critic/CBC picks up on a band then the feeding frenzy on anything on the band's hometown begins.
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Postby n8 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:17 pm

Avril Lavigne is Canadian too.

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Postby dieblucasdie » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:38 pm

nobodygirl wrote:Okay,
1. Someone referred to Canada as "The New New York" and I wanted to hit them very badly.


Yeah, I think that was me. I prefer "The New Williamsburg," though, and I say it as often as I can get someone to listen.

I think a lot of it has to do with sort of an American Orientalism-type relationship with Canada. The American indie scene is soooo inbred and soo NY-centric that a trend hits and suddenly every band sounds like the current trend. Since Canada is geographically/culturally isolated from this, bands like Arcade Fire, GBYE!, BSS, etc, come down and sound very fresh to American ears. You'll hear them (condescendingly) referred to as "quirky," as in, "Oh, those Canadian bands don't sound like Interpol! How quirky!"

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Postby Proptronics » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:50 pm

A few phenomenal bands you missed...

Cedars
The Constantines
Black Mountain
The Cinch
The Organ
Damn near all of the Ninja Tunes stable...
The New Pornagraphers
Destroyer


All Canadian, all cool.

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Postby dieblucasdie » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:53 pm

I had no clue that The Constantines are Canadian.

Speaking of The New Pornographers, what do you guys make of the whole supergroup/music collective thing that a lot of these bands seem to have going on? Is it just that they need to band together to survive? Is it a Canadian socialist/hippie thing?


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